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	<title>Comments on: Comparison of PHP frameworks &#8211; Part I</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 07:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I got married in summer 2009 and I&#039;ve been busy with other things. Life has changed quite a bit since I wrote this article. My wife and I moved twice, we now live in Sweden, I&#039;ve quit my job to go back to school and do a masters in astrophysics.

I have updated the two pages to make it clear that Part II will not be coming. I feel bad that I will not write Part II, but this type of article requires &lt;b&gt;a lot&lt;/b&gt; of time and the last thing I want is to do is slap together a poorly done Part II that doesn&#039;t do justice to the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I got married in summer 2009 and I&#8217;ve been busy with other things. Life has changed quite a bit since I wrote this article. My wife and I moved twice, we now live in Sweden, I&#8217;ve quit my job to go back to school and do a masters in astrophysics.</p>
<p>I have updated the two pages to make it clear that Part II will not be coming. I feel bad that I will not write Part II, but this type of article requires <b>a lot</b> of time and the last thing I want is to do is slap together a poorly done Part II that doesn&#8217;t do justice to the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: jsherk</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-461</link>
		<dc:creator>jsherk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to read Part II as well... looking at your archives, the last post on your site was August 2009 ... my guess is that you must of got married July/August 2009 which explains why you have no time to blog anymore!
Thanks for article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to read Part II as well&#8230; looking at your archives, the last post on your site was August 2009 &#8230; my guess is that you must of got married July/August 2009 which explains why you have no time to blog anymore!<br />
Thanks for article</p>
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		<title>By: Ammar</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Ammar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your great article.
Any idea when you are going to publish the 2nd part?

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,<br />
Thanks for your great article.<br />
Any idea when you are going to publish the 2nd part?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Beeson</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Beeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 22:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding your comment &quot;CakePHP requires that you create a model, a database and a table even if your program doesn’t require one.&quot; -- it isn&#039;t hidden or tucked away in the documentation. You said you read it but, it&#039;s actually right there in the open:

&quot;If you do not wish to use a Model in your controller, set var $uses = array(). This will allow you to use a controller without a need for a corresponding Model file.&quot; - http://book.cakephp.org/view/51/Controller-Attributes

Regarding password strengthening, you could always perform your actions to the raw password prior to the authentication system investigating it.

Finally addressing the &quot;Cake calls a view automatically&quot; it would seem you again didn&#039;t actually read it documentation very carefully:

&quot;Although CakePHP will automatically call it (unless you’ve set $this-&gt;autoRender to false) after every action’s logic, you can use it to specify an alternate view file by specifying an action name in the controller using $action.&quot; - http://book.cakephp.org/view/428/render</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding your comment &#8220;CakePHP requires that you create a model, a database and a table even if your program doesn’t require one.&#8221; &#8212; it isn&#8217;t hidden or tucked away in the documentation. You said you read it but, it&#8217;s actually right there in the open:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you do not wish to use a Model in your controller, set var $uses = array(). This will allow you to use a controller without a need for a corresponding Model file.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://book.cakephp.org/view/51/Controller-Attributes" rel="nofollow">http://book.cakephp.org/view/51/Controller-Attributes</a></p>
<p>Regarding password strengthening, you could always perform your actions to the raw password prior to the authentication system investigating it.</p>
<p>Finally addressing the &#8220;Cake calls a view automatically&#8221; it would seem you again didn&#8217;t actually read it documentation very carefully:</p>
<p>&#8220;Although CakePHP will automatically call it (unless you’ve set $this-&gt;autoRender to false) after every action’s logic, you can use it to specify an alternate view file by specifying an action name in the controller using $action.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://book.cakephp.org/view/428/render" rel="nofollow">http://book.cakephp.org/view/428/render</a></p>
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		<title>By: Simei Doblinski</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>Simei Doblinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the author is heavily partial to Yii. I code in CakePHP and I think he was in a real bad mood when trying it, because the let downs he pointed just make no sense to me. Specially about &quot;how complicated&quot; it looks and &quot;how bad&quot; the security is. 
(in fact the author activated my trolling detector)

I&#039;ve trained a lot of green php programmers (some of them were not even php programmers) in CakePHP, and after crossing the OO barrier, everything&#039;s went smoothly.

I hope the author check out the vaste documentation and try CakePHP again, in a better mood. right? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the author is heavily partial to Yii. I code in CakePHP and I think he was in a real bad mood when trying it, because the let downs he pointed just make no sense to me. Specially about &#8220;how complicated&#8221; it looks and &#8220;how bad&#8221; the security is.<br />
(in fact the author activated my trolling detector)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve trained a lot of green php programmers (some of them were not even php programmers) in CakePHP, and after crossing the OO barrier, everything&#8217;s went smoothly.</p>
<p>I hope the author check out the vaste documentation and try CakePHP again, in a better mood. right? <img src='http://daniel.carrera.bz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Ghazali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Ghazali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 06:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The criteria that I got is same with you. Your comparison is quite fair, I think. Its great to found this article for my reference. In the future I might use CodeIgniter for my first php project using a (php) framework. Thank you man :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The criteria that I got is same with you. Your comparison is quite fair, I think. Its great to found this article for my reference. In the future I might use CodeIgniter for my first php project using a (php) framework. Thank you man <img src='http://daniel.carrera.bz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sheldmandu</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-453</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheldmandu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 04:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did some comprehensive performance benchmarks of all the latest PHP MVC Frameworks including Yii 1.1.1, Kohana 2.3.4 and Code Igniter 1.7.2 as well as others.  The results and analysis of results is here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sheldmandu.com/php/php-mvc-frameworks/php-mvc-framework-performance-part-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Comparing PHP MVC Framework Performance&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did some comprehensive performance benchmarks of all the latest PHP MVC Frameworks including Yii 1.1.1, Kohana 2.3.4 and Code Igniter 1.7.2 as well as others.  The results and analysis of results is here: <a href="http://www.sheldmandu.com/php/php-mvc-frameworks/php-mvc-framework-performance-part-1" rel="nofollow">Comparing PHP MVC Framework Performance</a></p>
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		<title>By: hanadaddy</title>
		<link>http://daniel.carrera.bz/2009/01/comparison-of-php-frameworks-part-i/comment-page-1/#comment-449</link>
		<dc:creator>hanadaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your article. I am currently working with Zend framework ,but it is way too slow even with APC turned on. Just not confident if my shared hosting account handle two or more concurrent connection. So I searched for faster framework and found your article. Very helpful. I would start looking the Yii documents now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your article. I am currently working with Zend framework ,but it is way too slow even with APC turned on. Just not confident if my shared hosting account handle two or more concurrent connection. So I searched for faster framework and found your article. Very helpful. I would start looking the Yii documents now.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Souter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Souter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent set of articles. Did you ever write Part II? (If you did, for the life of me I can&#039;t find it :) ) What framework did you end up going with?

I&#039;m leaning heavily towards CodeIgniter at the moment for my project because it seems flexible, has good documentation, and doesn&#039;t require command-line access. (I&#039;m using a shared host)

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent set of articles. Did you ever write Part II? (If you did, for the life of me I can&#8217;t find it <img src='http://daniel.carrera.bz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) What framework did you end up going with?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaning heavily towards CodeIgniter at the moment for my project because it seems flexible, has good documentation, and doesn&#8217;t require command-line access. (I&#8217;m using a shared host)</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kshitij</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kshitij</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article buddy. I am a novice in PHP myself and am planning to go for a PHP framework and hence was confused. Was searching for exactly this and found it after a long search. But I can say the search was worth it. :)

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article buddy. I am a novice in PHP myself and am planning to go for a PHP framework and hence was confused. Was searching for exactly this and found it after a long search. But I can say the search was worth it. <img src='http://daniel.carrera.bz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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